>> is he losing confidence in d.c.? [unintelligible] he is getting tough with bp. he is separating himself from bp. >> it has been their problems since day one. it is also our problem. we're doing everything we can to plug the leak and respond back to the sub-sea and on the surface to the pollution that is coming out. again, i spoke about this in terms of being uncomfortable and the nature of their answer as it related to the increased amount of flow. .

there could be an increase of 20% of hydrocarbon coming from the riser when it is sheared off. we discussed -- that is a prime example of what she discussed on sunday. she said accurately that the long-term solution to this are

the drilling of relief ells, and that is likely to take until august. >> that seems like a mild response to it. and the president said that they have an interest in minimizing things. >> i did not say that. >> you suggest that bp is lying to the administration. don't you have a strong response to that? >> are they being forthcoming about the impact of cutting the rise iraq? no. i am not in their meetings in what they're scientists are telling them. our scientists are telling us what is likely to be the result of cutting the top of the riser off. >> does the president overall trusts bp? >> we will continue to push bp to do whatever we feel is necessary to respond to the

leak at to adequately respond to the spread of the will -- oil and that they pay for all of that so that taxpayers do not bear that. >> the ship was boarded in international waters. you think israel violated international law? >> i am not an international law expert. i do not know the answer to that. >> [unintelligible] >> i am not going to get into the international implications of all of this. i think the administration [unintelligible] has spoken on the actions and i look for to a full accounting.

>> rather than having an independent reaction, relying on the un security council statement, does that mean that the united states except everything coming from the security council? >> police supported what came out the security council. -- we supported what came out of the security council. we do not always support the first paragraphs. we supported and voted for the entire resolution. >> could you say that this was the poorly conceived action? >> you're asking me to be -- i am not an international law expert. again, i've never been at a meeting for i f and ask my opinion on international law. i do not know the answer to

that. >> has the administration considered a cap for the oil spill? >> it is what is typically done when there is not responsible party for disaster. the her -- the flooding in tennessee, governors have a stafford act declaration to cover damages. as i understand it in discussing this with the lawyers, the appropriate set of responses as contained in the oil pollution that. there are aspects of different types of stafford responses, such as the program begun on the 10th of may offering low interest loans and providing loan forgiveness for people to

have been hurt as an economic consequence of the disaster. >> the balance of responsibility between the federal government and there were earlier indications that they were relying on bp to run this. has there been a tip and the balance on who is controlling this operation? >> i refer you to with the president said last week. >> you're saying there has not been any since the beginning. >> thad allen said a week and a day ago, he calls the p -- he calls the p to require them to do them and that has the force of law. did it is obvious that there was mistakes on both sides. [unintelligible]

another report claims that they had been given a lot of humanitarian aid. >> let me see if there is any direction we have on that. >> did the u.s. know in advance about the israeli raid? [unintelligible] >> indonesia is the largest muslim country in the war. it is important to our efforts and we work in conjunction with them on counterterrorism and a whole host of issues of mutual concern. that trip -- i am not aware of any change in the planning for what we've done on that trip as a result of this. >> all possible receivership for bp, what you think of that?

>> i am not entirely sure what legal mechanism would have to do that. maybe i misunderstand. under what what did he ask that done? >> i am not sure legally. >> before i way again, i just told you i was not an international law expert. i am not a domestic law expert either but i would have to look at whatever mr. rice said. >> on the flow rate projections you have put together, is it possible that this maneuver does not succeed and the cutting of the riser, could that increase for some period of time the flow rate if it does not work? is there a bad possible to the american people should brace themselves for? >> one group estimated 12,000-

19,000 barrels of oil a day. we believe that that could increase 20% with a cut of the riser. that puts the bottom -- i can do the math quicker. 15,000 for the bottom end of that. i think cutting -- there will be time between the cut of that riser and the placement of the cap. i've seen varying estimates, but let's assume several days of increased hydrocarbon pollution and the time in which it takes to install some sort of top cap. some of that is based on the cut that is made by the salt. s --aw saw --the cut that is

make by the saw. based on that cut, one could produce more hydrocarbon pollution in the other. it is not without risk in terms of -- >> is it going to make things worse? >> i think the president's statement said on saturday that there is very little that is done now, based on where we are in the efforts to contain the well, i can, understanding that we have done things and of varying degree of risk. if this was less risky than the top kill, we would have done that before.

to be completely transparent, i think you've seen admiral allen saying today that there is also some concern about the condition of the well and the well bore relating to the explosion that happened on the 20th of april. >> which is a disagreement over the flow rate is the only incident in which bp has not been as forthcoming as the federal government would prefer? or part of a series of incidents? >> i'll tell you exactly what tony hayward said last week in terms of the degree to which whether or not there was any real pollution 3 i don't see how anyone could come to that conclusion. i clearly on saturday did not feel comfortable with their explanation on the possible increase in the flow.

>> in the daily assessment of things, one of the relief wells being drilled is 10 days ahead of schedule. are you satisfied with the peace efforts in that regard? >> as i understand it, that well is 12,000 feet down which includes the 5,000 feet of ocean. that is ahead of schedule and that is the long term permanent solution to the problem that we have at the well site right now. so regardless of the success of the operation currently ongoing, that is a permanent solution. the top kill, forcing the mud down and creating the stabilizing pressure which could have led to the cementing of the well, but drilling that relief well and installing another blow

out predictor on that well when it is drilled, and ultimately submiting it is a long-term solution for what is going on. >> can you tell by the degree to which internally conversations with the president [unintelligible] what is this going dole look like if we have to wait until august for this relief well for the final solution? what kind of damage are we talking about? and no matter how much we may legitimately be, transocean, halliburton responsible? we may need the federal response from taxpayers? >> the responsible parties of the well will pay that amount. we have in sending legislation to improve a number of the regulatory structures are run the relationship between oil and the government, one of the things that we have s the

lifting of the economic liability cap to an unlimited level that we feel comfortable, given the enormity of this disaster that we're looking at right now. in terms -- >> in florida, parts of the mid- atlantic -- >> i did not know the degree to which the full damage assessments has been worked out to that level best on when current -- wind and current. we've been taking the flow rate figures that the group came out with last week, the understanding the flow 15,000 barrels after the riser is cut, what you can begin to do is to figure out the math and figure out the massive amount of oil but will be in the gulf and could spread.

those are sobering figures and you can understand as the president said today, we are dealing with the largest environmental disaster in our country's history. >> the permanent solution is the house side date. could it be later? >> i assume it could be booked earlier and wider. the targeting is mid-august. drilling to the level at which you would need to go in order to construct the relief well. >> there are reports that the al qaeda #3 has been killed. >> in talking with -- obviously al qaeda has commented on loss of this individual. and we welcome his demise. in speaking with john brennan

and others today, i did not ask specifically the question of in comparison. john was quite clear in saying this is the biggest target to be either killed or captured in five years. and it is somebody who enter a plea understood -- entered correctly understood and was on top of the financing of al qaeda. this is unquestionably a severe blow. >> when did the president learned of this or to market >> now believe the answer was yes today but i will the to the answer on that. >> any worries that this bill will consume everything until all this and the domestic agenda is hobbled? you are hoping it would be about jobs, jobs, jobs. >> i think we get economic

figures in order to gauge where we are in the recovery. today the increase in manufacturing index above what had been expected and the largest spending increase in construction and 10 years aided by the recovery at, and we get a sense of where we are in the continuum of that jobs recovery with the new figures on friday. >> is there an opportunity costs on the agenda that the president had in mind for this year? >> what this particular incident could do to the likelihood of a clean energy bill or comprehensive energy bill, i think it becomes clearer -- the president said this last week in visiting also or factory in california -- it becomes clear

that if we're going to be less dependent on oil and more dependent on domestic quarrel, and in order to not be -- not simply take the dependence of one and move the proximity closer, we have to deal heavily in a clean energy economy. largely what was done to the recovery act, and create a marketplace for that to continue, that is tremendously important. i think it adds to the urgency of getting something done on energy. those of the things that we have learned throughout our time here -- you do not get to pick what events you deal with. and the president does not have that luxury, including yesterday. bu>> we received a memo from bob

bauer on a suspect matter. it is not a big deal as you are saying, then why did we wait for three months to answer that question? >> i have asked counsel for a better answer on that. >> you are asked on a number of occasions. do you think that that created -- -- the possibility for that? i can understand that. >> this is just at the time has come to change or alter the embargo? >> i can check on that. >> was the oddest sights -- united states blindsided by this incident? >> i think the question i took earlier was did we have knowledge of the military equation, and the answer to that was no. obviously this is not the first

flotilla first that this happened. my answer was based on previous use of military. >> when you think prime minister netanyahu might come back? and prime minister -- president of's next week? -- president abbas next week? >> that is moving 43 for the israeli answer, he has got an open invitation. i would direct the scheduling -- the particulars of that scheduled to that government. >> egypt has apparently opened one of the entrances to gaza in response to this to allow more traffic in and out. the united states think that is a good idea? >> and let me check on that. we do have concerns about the humanitarian situation in gaza. >> rachel corrie s-chip is

scheduled -- the ship rachel corrie is scheduled to ride in gaza tomorrow. the israelis are planning to inspected. >> let me get some information on the extent of that. i will find that answer route. >> [unintelligible] there is a dialogue started tomorrow with hillary clinton. i understand prison [unintelligible] obama -- if the u.s. is supporting india in the security council? >> i do not know what the remarks are for thursday.

>> i understand the state department said that many nations have offered help for the oil spill. i understand the americans are frustrated. there's so many scientists there. are you taking any international help? >> admiral allen said in the past that we have several countries who have offered and we have taken their help, some on booms, some additional skimmers, and throughout this process those that can aid in the disaster in the gulf, we have accepted that. [unintelligible]

>> let me -- i do not want to get too far ahead on the foreign trip. [unintelligible] >> do we support additional sanctions against north korea? obviously south korea and others have taken the concern about them on the investigation that was conducted to the united nations for further actions. we are obviously in close communications with south korea and are supportive of their efforts to respond. >> could have ask a final [unintelligible]

>> does the president believed that israel was becoming a burden for the united states? the political burden for the united states. >> based on? let me be clear here. the united states and israel as i've said on countless occasions, we have a trusted relationship. they are an important ally, and we are greatly supportive of their security. that is not going to change. >> does the president believed that mr. netanyahu is in control of his government, and finally -- >> i am happy to convey information but i do not have an answer for that.

the president spoke with the prime minister seven to 10 days ago. they have a conversation about things like iran i anticipate that in the coming days, the president and the prime minister will talk again. they are an important friend in all of this, and their relationship that we value greatly. they have not. >> a couple of quick things. he said that efforts were made in june and july. multiple efforts. >> whatever is in tte memo is accurate. >> with regard to june and july?

>> any relationship on how that happens is explained in the memo. let me check. >> s said that this was an unpaid position. will that make a difference? >> i am not going to get into hypotheticals. the situation was an unpaid position and did not constitute a lot of what you're hearing. >> just one morr. the intelligence advisory board, that would be a solution. >> that is how i understand the political dimensions. >> [unintelligible]

>> he could not. >> why would you offer that? >> what board was it? >> probert, carol browner has said that bp had a financial interest in keeping the numbers low. you that the raises the possibility of any sort of fraud or criminal investigation? and p d's stock plunged. >> there were estimates that they made and there were an n estimatesoaa made based on service photography -- and their work n estimatesoaa -- and there

were estimates that noaa made based on service photography. we wanted to get a better accounting and we will continue to look at as we make cuts. jetted any connection with them saving money? >> she said and i said the penalty that will be given to bp is based not only on their environmental record but also impacted by a the amount of open pollution entered into the gulf. as we have said, while they may hah a financial incentive to have a lower number, the estimates that we made were based on a team of scientists

that had been peer reviewed by other scientists in order to come up with as accurate a case that we can. understanding, and this is not to minimize, but we are talking about something that is happening 5,000 feet below. it is not something that you can see and touch except using remotely operated vehicles. >> a's spot prices have taken a big hit to date. -- bp's stock prices have taken a big hit to date. could they be bankrupt our be broken up? >> i've not heard that expressed because we've got a company with the type of market capitalization that can and will fully pay for the damage caused

on the disaster that they responsible for. >> some senate democrats said there were told by the white house that the presideet will be making recess appointments. will there be an appointments this week? >> i am not gotten any guidance on that. let me take a look into that. >> thank you very much. i two-part question related to yesterday's memorial that three as a graduate of harvard and harvard law school, the president has never protested -- >> he graduated from harvard law school but he graduated from columbia. >> i will correct that. he has never conducted a moral to harvard's board said i world's warm ii war including those --

>> i obviously do not have any knowledge of that. >> you'd think is right for harvard to have morals to these three gerran enemies, but no memorials to those who died in the confederate army? [laughter] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> a live video of underwater operations in the gulf of mexico with bp attempting to cut the video -- the pipe. attorney general eric holder told reporters that federal

authorities have opened criminal and civil investigations into the oil spill without saying that companies or individuals that might be targeted. and the associated press reporting that oil is making its first appearance in alabama, three weeks after tar balls were found there. you can look at our archive material on oral coverage. we have white house and bp and live feed of the oil spill video. it is live at c-span.org. in an hour and a half, the four candidates running for governor of south carolina today. that is live on c-span. we've got three new c-span books for you. abraham lincoln, the supreme court, and who is buried in grant's tomb? each with a contemporary perspective and perhaps something new to you about

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minister was planned for one hour, it went to hours and 15 minutes. the foreign minister at one. conferred with his private minister by phone. so in anticipation of a phone call that will happen between the presidents and the prime minister some time in the next few minutes, that in turn caused us to miss the ceremony with the ambassador who was sworn in. i will send you some pictures with secretary clinton later this afternoon and that led into the bilateral with the foreign minister. this is his last day covering the be here at the state department. best wishes with your upcoming book project. >> thanks for your work and all of your help.

>> i can report the secretary had a detailed in depth discussion with the foreign minister. the first portion of the meeting was on the immediate such a question with respect to the flotilla. the second half of the meeting regarded as such a question with respect to or ron. a hollow go into detail on that i am sure. -- i will go into detail on that, i am sure. there was a meeting with the romanian foreign minister, talked about missile defense, and the visa waiver program and regional issues. prior to the meeting, the secretary had a brief call today with president karzai cover the first opportunity to talk says the successful trip to washington a couple weeks ago.

the secretary of which president karzai good luck with the upcoming consult ju to giver peacega -- consultative peace jurga. there's a meeting happening next week and madrid, and richard holbrooke will leave it the u.s. they intend to focus on the meeting as a legion to the -- as it leads into the kabul conference. george mitchell will be up delegation to the conference tomorrow through friday,

meeting what the secretary as we speak, and he will depart later on this afternoon and expects to have meetings with palestinian and israeli leaders over the next couple of days. i think we released as secretary statement on the of -- iraqi election results. this decrease said said that with the election results officially certified, the leaders did to move forward to form an inclusive and representative government that will work on behalf of the iraqi people. with that. >> i was wondering if you could give us flavor on what the conversation but during the secretary and a turkish foreign minister was? he had strong things to say today. and his boss has had strong things to say as well. is it safe to assume -- he said he wanted the united states to condemn this act.

neither the secretary nor the spokesman at the white house would do that. is it safe to say it that there is still not a meeting of the minds on this? >> not all. it was a very in-depth discussion, lasted far longer than had been origgnally scheduled, and throughout the meeting but the secretary and the foreign minister more than one said, look, we are here as allies, we have a shared interest in working through what are very intractable circumstances that created significant emotions in the region. the foreign minister talked about turkey's immediate concern, which is the return of their citizens -- turkish citizens that were tragically

killed in this episode. and the secretary fully understood that. in fact, we have our own concerns about providing assistance to day to let american citizens who are part of the flotilla. -- to latin american citizens who are part of the flotilla. we have again stress the importance with israeli officials would moving ahead and releasing citizens from a wide range of countries, not just turkey, even as israel goes through and begins its own investigation into what happened. >> you still have not condemned this. was the conversation at all he did? why there -- what was there a need for the foreign minister to make a phone call? >> that was simply about the sequence of events. if the foreign manner -- the

foreign minister meeting with secretary clinton, he is also met with the national security advisor jim jones, and working through and having those meetings prior to a call, so it was a matter of rescheduling and making sure that we had three of an area meetings -- preliminary meetings. >> did it enter the situation in gaza? i assume their disagreements there on the role of hamas. did they broached the subject? >> no, they were not discussed. the foreign minister went through some background from the -- their background and the discussion that they had with the israeli government officials prior to the launching of the flotilla. but this was primarily focused on understanding where we are

now and what should be done in the short and intermediate term. >> did turkey push for more international participation? >> the secretary conveyed to the foreign minister primarily what she conveyed in her press availability a short time ago. we support the security council's call for prompt and partial and credible and transparent investigation. we support an israeli investigation. we're open to different ways of shoring up a credible investigation, including international participation it might undertake an investigation, since this was a turkish ship. part of what he said and we

fully understand, this is not just an incident that involved turkey and israel. a number countries including the united states had citizen there and flag vessels part of the foot-tall. -- the flotilla. >> where do we go from here? first of all with the foreign minister, did he ask her assistance in talking to the israelis about the ship or freeing turkish citizens? and you mentioned a 11 americans. we were led to believe there were at least 14 that are still there. >> there have been some american citizens who have already departed israel. i think we provided consular

services for 11 to date. >> are they still there? >> i think they're still being held there. ok, one at a time. >> to the foreign minister asked on the turkish behalf?sistance >> the turkish government has been in touch with the israeli government. i think they have a couple of aircraft that haveealready arrived. they are understandably anxious to bring those who were killed, injured, and other turkish citizens back to turkey. he stressed thatta number of times. the secretary indicated that we would convey turkey's desire to israel. [unintelligible]

>> you said a partial and transparent investigation, and then an israeli investigation. >> we think that israel is in the best position to conduct an investigation of what transpired, and as we've said, pe want to make sure it is prompt and partial and credible and transparent. >> use said that there are 11 americans involved in this. >> no, let me clarify. we have provided consular services to of 11 americans today. >> foreign military boarded a ship in international waters, the many of the passengers, and you do not want investigators from the u.s. >> you're making some presumptions with this question. >> what is the presumption? >> you characterize what happened on the ship. we are trying to ascertain precisely what happened on that

shepherd >> an investigator from the united states would be impartial. >> as the secretary indicated, we shall support what was described in the security council statement last night in the un. we're open to determine if there are opportunities for international participation an investigation. >> would that include sending the fbi? >> i am not prepared to say what role the united states would have this point. >> p.j., this building has made it a point to condemn human right abuses worldwide. they were shipping wheelchairs' and building equipment. how essential is it that this palace -- this equipment to the palestinians? is this useful right now? >> first of all, i cannot say right now what the status of the

material that was on the ship. i can in the presidential statement, there was encouragement that that material be so -- be provided to the people of gaza. the secretary said again today that we have pressed the israelis to expand the amount of humanitarian assistance to the people of gaza and we will come in due to work with them every day to try to make that happen. >> before the hotel was launched, there was some communication between the israeli government and the u.s. ambassador with regard to assistance. the israelis made no secret about what they were planning to do. they even put together a press pool to observe this. did the united states offer any words of caution to israel for undertook this attempt of

stopping ships? was there any kind of communication at any level from this building to the israeli government saying you need to be careful and watch how you handle the situation? >> i will take that question. i believe the answer is yes but i am not one to characterize what our communication was prior to the launching of the flotilla. >> further on that, what is the government saying to israel now about this? there is going to be another attempt as early as tomorrow to bring the ship into gaza. is there any words of caution to is a role to do it differently? >> does secretary had the opportunity -- the secretary had the opportunity to speak to depends minister imaging -- to defense manageinister barak abot

this through the loss of life, the injury, the impact that had on motions in the region. she said at that point, that we should be extremely cautious, but what we say and what we do in the coming days in light of what has transpired. >> the message from the united states government is that israel should not use the same tactics next time they encounter ships like this. >> as to what israel does, we are very aware that there are one or more ships heading towards gaza. this is a very serious incident that has occurred. the loss of life is tragic. the secretary express our condolences to the turks for their loss of life aboard the ships.

i don't think anyone wants to see a repeat of what happened yesterday. >> could you clarify a point of international law for me? the israeli government says that it is well within their right to do what they did just a day. they cite paragraphs 62 a, whereas the turkish foreign minister was quite emphatic that this was international waters and israel had no right to board those ships. what is the opinion of the analysis government on this? >> i am not an international law expert. i'm sure there will be debated as we go forward. >> is a says it was acting in self-defense. >> we understand that israel has a right to self-defense. given the situation in gaza that has been subject to rocket attacks in the past, there is a

state of hostility between israel and hamas. but as to particular questions of international law, i will defer. it is something that will be thoroughly debated and investigated. >israel has a right to self- defense, to be sure to read that said, there is also a clear humanitarian need to provide material to the people of gaza to help them subsist and rebuild. >> to use the self-defense being applied? >> as we said, we regret the tragic loss of life here and we call for a prom, credible, transparent, investigation. we're still trying to determine what happened on that ship and i am not going to prejudge the investigation from here. >> it said early on in the first

month of office that it won a to repair its relationship with the arab and muslim world. this crisis shows israel acting as a strategic liability. it has humanitarian assets, shives, with the u.s. consider breaking or coordinating with israel some way to letting humanitarian assistance into the strip? >> i can repeat what we just said. we of supported the expansion of humanitarian assistance to the people of gaza. as the secretary and others have said, the situation in gaza is unsustainable. we want to see how we can provide greater assistance to people of gaza. but let me finish. but clearly while protecting interests legitimate right to

self-defense. >> what assistance are you giving up? what happened to the money pledged last year? >> i would be happy to take that question. >> you mentioned the 11 that you had provided assistance to. can you give us a total number of americans evolved in the incident? we have heard up to 20. >> let me see the lead disinformation. i have heard 14. i don't think we had contact with all them. there are some people to our manifesto on the vessels and we have not found a minute. -- who have manifested on the vessels and we have not found them yet. i am only aware of one that received minor injuries and was traded yesterday. -- treaty yesterday.

>> have you heard anything from the palestinians about being unwilling to participate in peace talks? >> i talked to george mitchell a few minutes ago. he is planning to leave for the region later this afternoon. his meetings planned as early as tomorrow with palestinian officials. >> have a couple more you think the blockade should be lifted or is their legitimate reason for it? >> certainly israel had the right to be concerned about the nature of materials that is moving into gaza. at the same time, we along call for an expansion of humanitarian goods to the people of gaza to help them improve their situation on the ground. >> does that include the blockade? >> i'm not going to get into issues of the blockade. >> you still have not answered by an israeli investigation could be at all independent and transparent. why would you call for an

israeli investigation? >> i think that call for was impartial and we support that investigation and we believe that israel is in the best position. >> how could it be impartial? why are they and the best position? >> that does not make sense. >> we support the statement from the un release last night. that characterizes our position. >> why you think israel would be impartial? that is something they have already prejudged. >> i do not agree with you. you're leaping ahead. >> you have just sat a few minutes ago they are in the best position. you have not answered your question about why that is so. and that is part of this. how can that be?

>> hold on. just a moment ago you said the question about whether this is under international law or not is something to direct the investigation three years really government has already said its actions are permissible under their interpretation of international law. how can they conduct the investigation when they have examined thh question? >> i will repeat what i just said. we believe that israel is in the best position to take out that investigation. we're open to ideas on how there might be broader participation. >> we're just looking at your logic 3 why you think this? >> these workers rallied forces that carry out this action. -- these were israeli forces that carried out this action. they can investigate what instructions were given to the forces, the situation as they

approach the flotilla, what transparent -- what transpired aboard that ship. president abbas will be here next week and will visit with the president on june 9. >> says president netanyahu is no longer meeting with the president? >> the president and the prime minister talk mobile * yes today and they agreed to reschedule the meeting as soon as possible. -- called multiple times yesterday and they agreed to reschedule the meeting as soon as possible. >> have they happened already a? have ideas been thrown out about how there could be international participation? >> no, not yet. >> so the security council statement is based on fear.

-- air. if there have not been ideas tossed around for people suggesting different ways of an international component, how are you supporting it? >> and let me clarify. we will look at how -- obviously turkey has a vital interest in this. other countries have a vital interest in this. multiple citizens from multiple countries were involved in this, and we will work within the council to see how an international element can be introduced into this investigation. >> just look at a different example. one ship example where you had numerous countries involved. the south koreans were involved. >> we were invited to participate because we a particular expertise.

>> so they can invite anyone to invest -- to theirr investigation? >> we will help offering through -- helped think through how to make this as credible and transparent, impartial, and prompt as possible. >> you believe right now that israel is capable of meeting all those criteria? >> as a vibrant democracy accountable to its people, we have every confidence that israel is fully capable of investigating. >> we are going back and forth. >> this a vibrant democracy handcuffed people and beat them. just that allegation alone should pursue different. >> different terrorist groups, al qaeda, is there any truth to that?

>> i do not know. i have heard -- i am not sure what basis. >> one of the groups they say they are connected to his in 2008 the united states put on the terrorism. you should have some knowledge. >> part of this goes into the aspect of, this should be part of the investigation in terms of who was on that ship, how was it organized, these vessels assembled somewhere between the coast of turkey and israeli waters, and so it might have been organized under one group's offices, but we're cognizant of the fact that there are a number of people representing a variety of different ngos on that ship.

so i just don't understand the question. what is our assessment of the in i.h.h.? we will take that question. . we think that this incident underscores why we are trying to push ahead with a comprehensive peace in the middle east because

ultimately, that is the only way that you avoid these kinds of situations in the future. that is why george mitchell is going back to the region tonight, and we want to see the proximity talks continue and lead to direct negotiations. during the course of the meeting, you know, the deep and rich history that turkey has with israel was reflected upon. turkey has been one of israel's closest friends in the region for 60 years. but add to what happens in light of this incident, i think that remains to be seen, but to the extent that israel can address turkey's very legitimate concerns about getting its citizens returned and, i

supppse, turkey will be judging the nature of the israeli investigation into this incident, and on that basis, different countries will determine what the implications were. >> how much weight will you give to the statements of american citizens who were on those boats? some of them have made statements to the press denying israeli allegations that everything they had was basically made out of plastic. >> again, that is why we have been very cautious in our statements until we have a better perspective on what actually happened on that ship and why we have called for a prompt, thorough, impartial, transparent investigation. >> this morning, some journalists said the one thing they really want from the united states is condemnation of this action by the united states. did that come up? did he ask secretary clinton to do that?

if so, was there any answer by the secretary? >> it did not come up. he did not make that demand, specifically in the meeting. the secretary reiterated during a meeting what she said afterwards, which is, "we have to have a careful, thoughtful, approach to this going forward." >> did he make any demands or ask anything from the united states directly to do? >> we have already covered that. he indicated that turkey's immediate focus was on their citizens and the return of those who have been killed, injured, and others on board the ship, and we have conveyed turkey's concerns to the israeli government. >> what kind of coordination has the state department had with the egyptian government? >> i cannot -- we have been in touch with a variety of capital since yesterday to compare notes -- a variety of capitals

since yesterday to compare notes and to express our concern about moving forward in a cautious way. i do not know whether egypt indicated to us in advance what they are prepared to do. >> has prime minister netanyahu's visit been rescheduled? >> yes. >> when will he come? >> at the meeting that was supposed to be held today will be rescheduled. i do not know that there is a new date. he thanked the united states for the actions it took behind the scenes of the security council to "water down the resolution." what happened behind the scenes in the security council? what did the united states do to help out? >> i think it was a thorough debate over many hours. as with the case with the statements that come out of the

security council are part of the statement, words have meaning. we worked closely with a number of countries to make sure that going forward, that there was significant action calling for an investigation, but making sure that any actions did not further inflame emotions in the region. >> the second half of this meeting and to your other strong area of agreement with the turks, what was the upshot of the conversation on the iran sanctions resolution, and will the turks support it? >> as to what the -- as to what turkey will do when the resolution comes to a vote in the security council, i will defer to the government of turkey to make its own judgment.

mr. dove attali gave the secretary some background in terms of what happened in tehran. the secretary went through our outstanding concerns regarding iran's behavior. obviously, made more compelling by the most recent iaea report that highlights the fact that iran is hiding equipment, failing to cooperate fully with the iaea, a continuing investment activity, and the secretary again made the compelling case that we have two tracks, but our judgment is that iran will not move appreciably unless it is subject to additional international pressure. >> [inaudible] >> turkey will make its own

judgment. our work is continuing on the various elements of the resolution, including work on the annexes, and we expect this work to be done in the next few days. >> it was very clear in the conversation that the foreign minister was having with reporters today that they see no reason to support sanctions at this time, that the deal is broken, that he feels the p5 +1 should take. it sounded clear that if you were to go forward in the next few days that you would get a no vote from turkey is not brazil. are you prepared to risk coming out of there with a resolution that has three no votes, which you haae never had on a resolution involving iran before? >> i will not prejudge what happens in the coming days. the secretary made clear that we

are continuing to work within the security council on a draft resolution. we are prepared to bring it forward in the next few days. turkey will make up its own mind as to how to evaluate this during the course of the meeting. the foreign minister made clear what we understood beforehand which was turkey's view of sanctions as a tool. we see this in a different way, but ultimately, turkey has what the other members of the council determined how they want to vote on the prospective resolution. >> in other words, it is better to have some sort of resolution pass now, even with no votes, then to wait to get general international consensus and have a resolution passed with only yes votes? that is the position of the

united states that iran is unlikely to change its current stance with respect to the iaea absent some additional international pressure. >> are you not driven somewhat here by timing? if you do not get a resolution passed by the middle of june, it would be difficult to get one passed by the european union before they go on their august recess? >> we do not have a specific timetable. the president has indicated he would like to see this action taken by the end of spring. we are now at june 1. the end of spring is approaching. [laughter] >> did the president's letters to brazil and turkey come up in the meeting? beyond that, there seems to be miscommunication at least on the surface about how much the u.s. understood what turkey and

brazil were doing. >> i do not think there was a miscommunication at all. the issue that was discussed during the meeting was not so much what was in the trr proposal but what iran has chosen to do and continue o do outside of the trr proposal. i think from our standpoint, the statements by the foreign minister both in new york and also back in tehran that the trr deal in essence does not matter. iran is prepared to continue to enrich, which means that iran is stating that it is prepared to continue to function outside of international obligations, its responsibilities to the iaea, and its response of delays on a multiple united nations security council resolutions. the secretary made that point, which is that we deeply appreciate what turkey did and

continues to do in terms of seeking a diplomatic solution. we think that the diplomatic track and pressure track work in tandem, and given iran's demonstrated behavior, given its unwillingness to live up to its international obligations, the united states has reached a judgment that the best way to get iran to change course is through additional sanctions that we are working on within the security council. ultimately, turkey and other countries will have to make their own judgment based on what iran has said and what iran continues to do, but there was a very strong report put out by director-general in the last couple of days that continues to _ in our mind that iran is not prepared to meet its international obligation -- continues to underscore in our

mind that iran is not prepared to meet its international obligations. the facts of the trr proposal are not in dispute. we are looking not just at the trr proposal but at the full effort or in the case of iran, lack of effort, and it is our judgment that the trr proposal and iran's response overall have not build the confidence that we had hoped for -- has not build the confidence we had hoped for. we do not see any change in iran's behavior. we see what is on paper in terms of the joint declaration, but at the same time, iranian action and words, their ongoing commitment to continue to enrich, which is in violation of

the iaea safeguards agreement, in violation of the contravention of united nations security council resolutions -- that is the basis upon which we believe the sanctions resolution should go forward. that just more broadly, here is a year later -- >> just more broadly, here it is a year after the so-called green revolution, and the whole basis on which the government move forward was to demonstrate how increasingly isolated iran is in the eyes of the international community, and yet here it is a year later after months and months of negotiations, and you have come to the possibility where two major members of the security council are -- up-and-coming countries such as brazil and turkey -- are not in agreement with you, defending the armenian government, arguing that the iranian government has tried to reach out -- defending the i iranian government, arguing that they have tried to reach out.

>> let me take issue with the supposition behind your question. during the course of the meeting today, the foreign minister reiterated that turkey has the very same concerns that the united states has. turkey, which obviously is a direct neighbor of iran, will be among the first to feel the effects of iran with a nuclear weapon. he reiterated that turkey, just like the united states, will not tolerate a nuclear-capable airtran. -- nuclear-capable iran. we are discussing the best way forward based on a shared strategic view, and we will continue to talk to turkey in the coming days, and turkey will have to make a judgment when the security council resolution is put forward to a vote. >> [inaudible] robust sanctions complicated by the raid on the ship.

>> [inaudible] first to feel the effects if you pursue sanctions against iran. the foreign minister talked about that. did he ask for assurances about that, or are you offering any? >> we have talked at length to turkey, as we have worked through the details of the security council resolution, and we certainly fully understand that turkey's economy is linked to iran's, and we think we have taken that into account in terms of crafting a resolution that the international community can support. >> [inaudible] >> other than the meeting took place earlier this afternoon, i do not. >> i have a question about the guy down in mexico charged with the murder of his wife.

i was curious whether the u.s. has received an extrrdition request from mexico. >> let me take that question. i just cannot understand. >> with regard to al-masri, are we sure he is dead this time, and how big an impact does that have on al qaeda? >> any time the senior al qaeda leader is killed or captured, it delivers a blow to those who seek to undermine the afghan government or of a pakistan government or to do harm to the afghan people or the national forces in the area. i cannot say in the area, whether we have definitive proof, but instead, we have seen the reports that he is, and we hope it is true. >> the next round to talk to

washington next week, can you confirm that? >> let me take the question -- you are right. the next meeting is here. let me locked in on whether that is next week. >> do you have any commentary about georgy and -- in georgian -- georgian elections? >> i will take that question. and that a quick to talk about it. >> [inaudible] what is your assessment of where china stands now on that and what do you feel the prospects are for getting chinese support for a united nations resolution? >> we continue our consultations broadly. the korean foreign minister is here this afternoon. we take note of the meetings that were held previous days

involving china, korea, and japan. we believe that the facts are compelling, and we would hope that china would join in an international consensus to make clear to north korea that these kinds of provocative actions will not be tolerated and should not occur in the future. >> is the u.s. disappointed? >> what is important is when the matter comes before the council, that will be a key point where we hope that china will have determined to its own satisfaction that north korea sunk the ship and that north korea should suffer consequences because of it. >> is the u.s. getting enough support from russia on the matter? taking the issue to the united nations security council? >> there is a russian team in

korea as we speak that is evaluating the evidence. >> [inaudible] you detainee in cuba. thursday is going to be the six- month anniversary of his arrest. >> we have had a couple of consular visits. i will check and see when the last one was. it has not been a few weeks. we continue to communicate at every opportunity that he should be released. >> the foreign minister called and the turkish ambassador and the iranian ambassador to complain about continued bombardment of the northern region of iraq. is that something you would raise with turkey? >> i cannot speak to that meeting. we are equally concerned with the attack that turkey has suffered in the last few days

from the pkk, and this is a subject that i believe iraq and turkey are involved in high- level discussions about. >> thank you. >> this is a live picture of the newest effort by bp to stop the oil spill in the gulf of mexico. the attorney general is in the gulf coast region today. his department is preparing to take criminal action against bp if evidence warrants that. now, a discussion on space programs in many countries, and the main speaker is yuri baturin. it is 40 minutes. >> good morning. my name is well, rand, and i am a deputy director -- will pomerand. before we get started, a few

administrative matters to take care of. i would like to ask that everyone please turn off cell phones, blackberries, and so forth. they interfere with our sound system. a brief note about some upcoming programs. we are coming to the end of our season, but we do have a few more discussions. next week, on monday, we will have marcia mcgraw-olive and andre markoff speaking on russia as a donor. on monday, june 14, we will have a talk about 100 days at the office. and finally on tuesday, june 15, we will have a seminar here to close out our season with katharine from the united states commission on international religious freedom, and she will talk about religious freedoms in today's russia. it is our great pleasure today to have yuri baturin speak.

yuri is a longtime friend of the institute and a former fellow here as well. he has indeed one of the most -- a varied background. he is a graduate from the moscow institute of physics and technology. in 1973, but he did not stop there. he proceeded to get a law degree as well as a degree from the school of journalism at moscow state university, and finally in 2005, he graduated from the diplomatic academy of the russian foreign ministry. in addition to this extraordinary academic background, he managed to put all these different skills to good use. he has been a journalist in russia. presidential aide advising president yeltsin on national security and legal matters. most importantly, he has managed to fly two space missions as well.

indeed, it is a great pleasure to have yuri baturin here today, and he will be talking about new paradigm for the international space program's prospects and forecasts. >> thank you, william. good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for coming. today, i should like to present to you a very new book. it is a pleasure for me to be backed here backedback her -- back here.

i worked here 20 years ago, not in this building, but the plaza here. i have no words to express my gratitude to the can and institute. it was really the best period of my research work. now, i will take some time to explain who is academician chertok. in an extraordinary century, he lived an extraordinary life. he participated in many important technological milestones, including sputnik and launching the world's first space voyagers. chertok, for a long time, worked

as a deputy chief designer of soviet spacecraft. he was one of the senior designers over the soviet union's -- in charge of the soviet union's growing achievement in space power. now, he is 98 years old, anddhe is -- works as an adviser to the chief designer of rockets space corp. this is the book, prepared by more than 40 years of academician chertok.

i was author of six chapters. it was published two weeks ago, and i'm absolutely sure that this is the first copy in the united states. i should like to give it as a present to the library of the canon institute. >> thank you very much. >> starting with these preliminaries, let's get right to the plan. let me now pass to the program of the long-term forecast. the first organization has ever risen almost all at once.

some serious scientists, engineers, and designers refused to participate in preparation o+ the book. it is quite understandable. they wanted to keep their reputation of serious experts. nevertheless, we have found officers of very good qualification who joined us in this project. first step of focus was collecting experts' opinions. this mathematical, statistical profession has been carried out and interference of events were analyzed. we received prognosis graf --

graph using mathematical language. next step taken in the political, economical, but ground and legal limitations. in international space law. at last, one more idea. we used the american experience. in 1964, ren corp. has made a forecast of development of science and technology for 50 years. they invited as experts also science fiction writers -- isaac asimov, arthur clarke, and others. we did the same with other writers and included in our book and literature chapter as part of common prognosis.

the deal economic structure -- the geoeconomic structure is defined by ways that riffed -- the world that reflects economic potential. gross national income comprises the total value produced by a country that is the gross domestic product or gross national product together with its income received from other countries. extra-large economic potential forms. economic potential figures indicate that the united states is the world whole now. as for russia, its economic potential enables it to form a poll in eastern europe.

>> -- strategic structure of economic regulations deals with neutral poles but for the concept of center of power. now, i want to say something. famous french science fiction writer george young described the trouble of the heroes to the moon as a byproduct of war -- travel of the heroes to the moon as a byproduct of war. this lends some remarkable science and technical forecasts

and usually is not discussed. meanwhile, it appears a strategic one. dreams of space flight to other planets rarely supported the dreams of scientists and designers in the 20th century, but real outer space exploration began from military rivalry. military exploration at least up to the middle of the 21st century blended with scientific progress. thus, the international space station during a century will remain supreme point of space preparation. next decade in 20 years, the

united states -- 10, 20 years, the united states will determine whether outer space exploration after economic crisis, united this will keep dominant position in the world -- united states will keep dominant position in the world. leaders in the world economy will be china, japan, and germany. russia will be regional country. increasingly, the advantage in space, we will achieve superiority in the operational zone, launching satellites clouds of small space vehicles. space powers will give special attention to the geostationary

orbit. international space station will be carried out successfully. also, we will pursue the first launching of light craft, which is a new term as spacecraft launching with powerful laser. like crack preparation in united states, which -- like kraft preparation in an ad states works in this project, which in russia, a project like this named impulsar. -- light craft preparation. tourism will be developed successfully. in the next decade, the nation of the united states will be

kept, but individual americans in the nation comes to them china, japan, india, and germany will economically grosso considerably that the -- grow so considerably that the world from the unipolar will become multipolar. in the beginning of the new decade, the chinese space station will be launched, and the international space station program completed. the united states will launch the first orbital repair station. the situation is the world will be the same in the next decade. the united states, a single

global center of power under conditions of geoeconomic multipolarity. this decade, we have seen that -- this decade, the united states, china, and russia will develop industrial production of unique materials in space. first a lunar base space station will change expedition lending to the moon in the next decade. besides, it will be fast militarization of space, unfortunately. next decade, the united states will attend to establish absolute domination -- attempt to establish absolute

domination. china, japan, russia, and some other states will react to new american strategy. as a consequence, by 45 years, the multiple whole world will have three centers of power. united states will establish almost absolute control over space, but there will be a country which will be able to counteract, and it will be china. by the meat of the century, there will be very fast militarization. first, space will -- first space war will be prolonged about two

years since 51st year. as a result of the second world war, the united states again will and the war in most favorable position. the main consequence of the first space war will be economic potential of the united states and china -- equalization of the united states and china. china will turn into a super state and the second pole and the new center of power. as to the space activity, i should mention energy transfer from space does occur. creation of the system of protection is there from an asteroid damage establish the international space agency development of international

space block band soon -- and it will be soon there will be a main principle that earth divides states and nations. space unites them. next decade, the situation is the same. two poles, two centers of power. next, this decade, in this decade, first expedition to mars will be carried out. the new space will be cleared away with space garbage vehicle. next decade, station equipped with solar batteries between earth and moon will be

established. first lunar hotel on the moon for the space tourist. first manned lightcraft. the mosttsignificant achievement of this decade will be creation of international solar manned station in orbit. now, we are almost at the end of the 21st century. by the end of this century, there will be a change of historical epics. economical relations will transform. the structure of the world will break up.

however, neither united states nor china and other countries will become a huge unique pole. one polarity will cover the world. it will change space exploration. first year of 22nd century, an astronaut will go to space flight, but not a robot leg today's japanese robots -- like today's japanese robots, but it will be artificial life astronauts. this event will make an influence on mankind -- shocking influence on mankind. the reaction of best media will be unprecedented. this event, by historic results,

22nd century will be regarded as extraordinary, like the unique flight of the first space flight in 1961. there is a very brief description of our space focus, very brief. the book is -- [laughter] on the contrary. the focus for the whooe century is a fantasy. maybe science fiction, but in our science fiction forecast, there is a little bit more science that is accepted in science fiction literature. academician chertok -- i will give him label man breacher, a

breach between 20th century and 21st century. he does it scientifically. russian cosmonauts have a tradition -- they are arrive on their capsule. according to tradition, i should say to you, thank you for attention. and besides, i should like to give to the library all of my books -- space books. there is a great book about men cosmonautics. nasa said it is the best books on manned cosmonautics in the

world. >> thank you. [applause] >> one more book. this is a collection of declassified top-secret soviet documents about the beginning of the soviet space program. it took about three years to prepare this book for me. and one more book -- and not mine, but the author is my student. i am a professor of journalistic school of moscow university. my students wrote this book, students who attended by steady, my seminar, the school of space journalism. they prepared this book.

and at last, not about about creation of the russian constitution, also my book. thank you. >> thanks so much. [applause] we are going to open the floor to questions now. i ask that you identify yourself and please speak slowly so that we can get the full question. thanks very much. >> my name is thomas green me. can you hear me? you can hear me? >> yes. >> you talked about the establishment of a new space

station on the moon. perhaps before two decades. could you say something about what tasks would be assigned to the space station? and what it would accomplish? who would pay for it? how would it be organized? >> it is a good question, thank you. because there are no main tasks for exploration of the moon, but there is at least one almighty some -- sum. you know that the hubble telescope is very effective -- very effective. and if you establish a telescope

like this with the special station on the dark side of the moon, it will be just more effective than hubbell -- it is my point of view. but as to our space forecast, about the american station of the moon. in our forecast, it will be immediate station. -- h media station. -- a media station. >> i'm for tehe chinese media right now.

you mentioned about this may be the military station. that may occur a lot of conflict in the future. somebody had to pay for the international space station on the moon, but it may get very sad fact afterwards. that is my concern. >> i do not think there will be many conflicts, so i say about militarization a process of

placing the arms in space, not conflict. conflict will be first space war. it will be one space conflict. you see? the tiny space station, space station orbital or moon, chinese orbital space station or about chinese moon space station. >> which one did you refer to? >> [inaudible] you mentioned about the international space station. [inaudible]

>> i did not say international space station on the moon, no. first moon station, american. second, chinese. ok. >> i'm marsha smith with the space and technology group. i'm curious as to why you think space is going to become militarized. what is the motivation for militarizing space? why do you think a space war would last two years? i would think it would all be over in 10 minutes. [laughter]

>> space is under militarization today. yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and tomorrow will be militarization. then, two years from the first space war, it is not so easy to liquidate space infrastructure. on earth, to liquidate thousands of space objects in mirror -- mere operational zone. even 10 minutes, you cannot find game -- find aim even.

not less than two years. >> the gentleman in the tie. >> i'm from the state department. i wonder if academician chertok 's book talks about the very important factor in space exploration that is the fluctuation and differences in public support for various models, various types of space exploration. for instance, in the united states, the support for manned human flight seems to be going down, while in russia, it seems to be on the upswing. is this a topic that the book is discussing at some length?

>> we tried to prepare our forecast as a conflict project, including economic, political, social, legal aspects. i cannot agree with you that in russia, manned cosmonautics is growing. as in the united states, just the same period -- same. >> can you hear me? national air and space museum, professional anthropology. another question -- can you imagine a scenario of interference with a project of

militarization of space? since we are in the realm of science fiction or speculative science, i would be interested to know if there is an alternative scenario to the kind of trajectory towards militarization and war that you envision. >> as a process of preparing a forecast, the process of campaigning many scenarios, by in this book, is described only domination scenario. >> were other scenarios considered?

>> yes. this is forecast, not a prediction. >> right here. >> my name is michelle. we have a group of people right now working on putting together -- well, let me put it this way -- one of the biggest challenges in going out into space is that it is not empty. there is a lot of cosmic radiation out there, and we really do not know much about whht is out there, except for what gets here on earth, once we get beyond our atmosphere, it is a different story. what we are trying to do is put together an updated periodic table to include the different

isotopes, various factors of cosmic radiation. and so, that is one aspect of what we're doing. the other -- >> a question for mr. baturin? >> it is part of the question. part of the work we are doing is part of the question. we are doing this in order to look like what is going to be required to actually get a man to mars safely. the other aspect of it is given what the cosmic radiation and other gravitational factors, the actual necessity of developing nuclear-power fusion -- fusion- powered rockets to actually have 1g acceleration said that the people that try to get to mars

can get there safely, and in a condition where they can actually do work. i understand there been talks about nuclear-power rockets. i do not know exactly what is going on in russia now with that, but i'm wondering about the possibility of that expanding to fusion power so that we can get the 1g acceleration. also, i think based on that very important type of work. so that is my question.

>> yes, thank you for the question, for such a detailed question. i must say that more than 40 experts prepared this book. it is impossible to take into consideration all factors, but many factors were discussed. the results is in this book. as to the rocket, you are quite right to take into

consideration another kind -- nuclear, laser, plasma, and so on. >> thank you. >> two quick questions. could you expand on the future role of germany, japan, and india that you mentioned as moving into space? second, might there be an alliance between japan and india, possibly to counter chinese dominance of space. >> frankly, there is not to my knowledge -- i am not an economist. i am a cosmonaut. but economists who took part in

our project say so. >> all this week, watch "book tv" in prime time, starting today with first ladies. rosalynn carter looks at the treatment of mental health issues and how it has changed in the u.s. nor bush discusses her recent memoir, and -- laura bush discusses her recent memoir. all this week on c-span2. >> this weekend, noted feminist author and legal scholars martha nussbaum has written or contributed to more than 20 books on liberal education, ethics, sexism, and legal justice. join our three-hour discussion with your phone calls, e-mails, and treats -- tweets live sunday. >> we are going live now to south carolina for the

republican primary debate for governor for candidates vying for the seat currently held by governor mark sanford, who is term-limited. this hour-long debate is hosted by wbtw news anchor. .

>> one week from tonight. our candidates include andre bauer, gresham barrett, henry mcmaster, nikki haley. please give the candidates a warm south carolina welcome. [applause] >> the debate features a panel of the steam to journalists. they include harry logan who works in the office of public -pand community affairs at frans marion. he is also the immediate president of the press

association of south carolina. joining him is his former colleague, jackie torch. she is the metro editor of the morning news. the third member is mike connolly from news 13. [applause] this debate will focus on job creation and long-term economic growth across all of south carolina. each candidate will have a chance to answer three questions posed by each panelist. and the candidates have one minute 30 seconds to enter the question when it is their time. the other three candidates have 30 seconds for rebuttal. we have a series of corn ponces to determine the order -- quintana says -- coin tosees to

determine the order. >> the recent poll among registered voters found that jobs and the economy or their top priorities with little or no concern about welfare. is your attention on the welfare question only a hot-button issue to appeal to voters in the gop primary? was absolutely not. we will have a record drop in the amount of revenue we have to stop. not only do we have to create new opportunities but we have to make up shortfalls. we have to make tough decisions. i do not have political advisers. i decide what is best for south carolina by being out on the street. we have to make some tough cuts next year. we have to look at every program out there to find out what is effected and what is not. the fastest growing segment in the budget right now is the welfare. it is bigger than what we spend on military spending, the

fastest-growing segment is welfare. nobody wants to talk about it. we have to address that. more than that, we have to talk about ways to bring this is to south carolina. i and the only one that is still running a business. i deal with it every day. i see how difficult is to pay the taxes ttat are continually placed on the. more and more government bureaucrats make it more difficult to do things to run a business. every time i turn around, the things that made me ssccessful as a young man an older person are being taken away. it is more and more business for private business owners to make a living. >> mr. barrett. >> i do agree jobs is an important issue. but putting south carolina back to work, it is it business principled plan about how we

turn this economy around with the private sector. how we empower people and not the government. it includes comprehensive tax reform. it talks about education and infrastructure. i hope we get a chance to share those thoughts with you. >> jobs is number one. no doubt about it. we are at a crossroads. if we do not make the right choices now, we will be some. we have been drifting for 12 years because we did not have a plan. i have a plan that will work. i know how to get things done. i am not a politician. i am a prosecutor. the prosecutor has broad authority in this day. i have been leading the state with a record of accomplishment of getting things done. i want to lead us to that path to prosperity. i have the maturity and judgment and credibility to get it done. >> it is important for us to look at the jobs problem. we also have the fact that we

did not have the skilled work force for our businesses now. we have a lot of jobs in south carolina going out of state and country. the first thing we have to do is eliminate the corporate income tax. and when you give businesses cash flow and give profit buttons, the first big they do is hire people. we need a strong commerce plan that understands it is the quality of companies and we have to strengthen our technical schools so we can get skilled made them. >> the next question will go to congressman barrett. >> you have expressed a desire to create economic positions in north carolina -- south carolina. what specific plans to you have to establish the enhanced infrastructure needed like broadband internet access to lure business to the poorest parts of the state. >> that is a great question.

i was hoping somebody was going to ask that. we have a plan. it is called putting south carolina back to work. it is and eight step plan of how we turn this economy the first comprehensive tax reform. we need a system that is fair. we look at property tax and sales tax. now cigarette tax. look at the system we have. we need a system where every option is on the table. a system that is fair and encourages business and industry to come and position business. infrastructure, roads, water, bridges. not just where we put them but how we pay for them. one out of every 10 jobs. it is extremely important to to roll up his sleeves and get ready. my wife is a first-rate school

teacher. note child should lead the third great that is not at or above third grade level. for that, we need dollars spent in the classroom. we have to make sure those dollars make it to the classroom. the last thing is restructuring. i would like to see the hand of the governor strengthened. we have a governor that not only has a responsibility but the authority to make a difference. printing south carolina into the 21st century. that is how we change jobs. >> i think we need a leader who knows how to get things done. i never served in legislative office. this office is the only office i have held. i know how to get things done. pou have to use the assets you have and the full team. we have not been doing that for 12 years. are we encouraging industry? we need the agriculture,

tourism, technical college and a new tax system to make them lower and more fair. >> ms. haley? what's your question was about economic conditions in rural areas. what we need to understand is we have to have this tax structure that works. if we have to look at our educational system. we are spending $12,000 -- we that does not touched the school districts. and we have to set up vocational programs starting in the ninth grant so they are ready for a technical school so in these rural areas, and we are getting the skilled work force that can bring these companies and i know we can build those areas of. >> mr. bauer. >> we need for regional offices. it's not just be in colombia. it should be working with the

local folks to find out what they need. whether it is plastics right here in this area. i have been to taiwan and build a relationship with them. we need a port in south carolina for when the panama canal is finished. i have been there and met with the shipping companies. you have to start planning for the future. whether you do a public-private partnership, we need eight intermodal port. we have to do something about our tax structure. we do everything we can to discourage people from investing in south carolina. if you look at what we charge to properties owned by businesses. we are putting the burden on businesses. >> time is up. the next question will be addressed to mr. mcmaster. >> you made the fight against internet crimes against children and more recently the fight against the federal health care bill some of the hallmarks of

your time as attorney general of the state. what can you do to make economic development for all of south carolina a hallmark of your time as governor? >> as i began to explain one minute ago, it was an executive position. i note that you have to have a team working together to know all about the problem you are trying to solve. what i would do with economic development is do something that has not been done before. we need to change the way we do it. we need to have it led by the confederate. there has to be a strategic plan. i published one on how to get there. if you need to have all these assets. we have one of the best ports in the country. it is deep water. our agriculture potential run the i-95 corridor is second the

amount we are not marketing it. if the farmers are not getting the kind of information and strategies of a need. they need to be a part of working with the department of commerce. tourism. i would separate tourism off from parks and recreation. we have great economic engines and terrorism but we are not promoting them. the technical college system is second to none. we have to get our taxes down. we need a leader that gets things done. i have gotten internet creditors lost through. i have talked to fight but i know how to work with people and get things done. we have to keep the federal permit off our back. that is why i sued them. we have to step forward and to immigration. >> ms. haley. >> we look at economic development, i will get someone who leads the commerce department that things out of

the box and understands it is about quality of companies. i will talk to that person on a daily basis. there will meet with the regional directors on a monthly basis. let's look at boeing. they were a great win for south carolina. they came for two reasons. we keep the units out. we have to say that way. also, they got tax incentives. and what are we not taking care of the businesses we have? when you create that environment, businesses will come here because it makes sense for their bottom line. >> if you are a business person, you did not just look at taxes. at 3 state is throwing out tax incentives. when its business comes here, you have to sit down with them and have them a comfortable and let them know there is a capable workforce. let them know that their project will not be held out and

bureaucrats will not stop the project. city and county government have to be there to work with them. things have a combined interest for the person that is looking at moving here. they have to have a comfort level with the person they are working with. >> when i think of economic development, i think of a two- pronged attack. offshore natural gas reserves, 4 billion cubic feet. the national petroleum institute says that could be too -- and $50 million in royalties and 2200 jobs that we could use. there are four nuclear reactors on board in nuclear -- in south carolina. those four nuclear reactors are% $25 billion investment into south carolina which are real jobs, real growth, and real economic opportunity. >> the next question from harry logan. it is for niki hayley. governor, did you think

questions raised about your personal life would affect your ability to recruit drops to south carolina? with the questions raised about my personal life are not true. it is funded there were no questions brought up until two weeks prior to the election when i became a double-digit leader in the polls. everything i have done in the general assembly has been accountable to bring out the truth whether it is the third term limits are getting legislators to disclose income or shows spending on line. that will tell you that my husband and i have been proud unfaithful to each other for 13 years. i think it is sad that this is south carolina politics at its worst. i was caught by sarah palin, mitt romney and they said this is what happens -- called by sarah palin and mr. romney and they said this is what happens when you are in the day. the funds have not stopped ringing with positive calls. we have run out of yard signs

and bumper stickers. i will lead the way i have always led which is not to sit there and please the guys at the state house but make sure i am working for the people of this state. that is what they want. i have gone against the assembly on several things. that will not stop me from fighting. >> having run against the governor's son and members of the legislature and against the establishment all my life, they always supported somebody else. they have gone after every bit of my personal life. i do not know what else is left. [laughter] >> maybe they can find something. [laughter] >> i am sure they will try. >> for the record, andre bauer is a good guy. >> it has no place in south

carolina. south carolinian is to serve better and expect more. unfortunately, character does matter. might that to me early on it is the only thing that matters. if there has ever been a time when we need leaders of both reproached it is today. people look and pay attention. we have to turn the page in south carolina. >> the governor of all people is always under a microscope. you have to do the right thing. we have all been subject to unfounded personal attacks. i have one newspaper that has been following my children around for a couple weeks trying to find something. unfortunately, nikki, it is a part of politics but it should not be. if you stand up for the people and you try to attack the problems we have and work hard, we will be all right. >> the next question is directed

toward andre bauer. >> your program which is designed to protect senior citizens from fraud has been criticized for duplicating services offered in the private sector. how you reconcile to that for a reduction in government funded public assistance. " the federal government and state government demanded and required that i do something about senior fraud. the private sector says they do it. if so, why is there so much senior fraud? why is the joint assembly on aging come together and say please do something? the people came together and said somebody has to take up the cause. we did. the taxpayers now get a check back every year when they sign up for this program. seniors actually have some work they can go to make sure they

have a comfort level second to none. they do not have to worry about somebody taking advantage of them. that is would government is supposed to do. >> in my experience, i have never seen anything the government can do better than the private sector. we have to do everything we can within our power to streamline the process. we have for educational budgets. -- four educational budgets. you cannot say that is effected. we have 64 different funding sources. the time has come to spend taxpayer dollars wisely. we have to figure out how we can do it better. the government is taking more and more money and putting us into perpetual debt.

taken off the cliff and things have gotten worse. the same is true for a lot of state governments. i guarantee if i am governor, i will use that veto. we will not raise taxes or grow government. we will streamline government. we will also's my plan to establish a court system that will save us hundreds of millions of dollars. >> i can tell you that one of the first things i do is order every agency in the cabinet. that never go back and see if these programs work. they never followed through. we will go to every agency and say what do we have to have and work our way out. the second thing is we have to understand the private sector is more efficient, the quality is better and they are more effective. the government tends to mess up more than it fixes. what the privatt sector can do

we can let them do. >> the next question is for congressman gresham barrett. >> you mentioned and eight step plan and touched on this topic. what can you do to continue to maximize south carolina's network of interstate highways and the port of charleston and the port of georgetown and other manufacturing infrastructure components to continue to grow the economic opportunities for workers in south carolina. >> part of the plan we worked, of course it has comprehensive tax reform. infrastructure is extremely important. one of the major infrastructure projects is i 73. what is good for the lower part of the state is good for the upper part of the state. we are too small to fight about it. i live within 15 miles of the corridor. what about the i-95 corridor? or the 20?

we can duplicate that process across the state but it takes forward thinking. volkswagen came to my district and they wanted to put a plant there. we told them we would give them the bridges, roads, waters, sewer. there went to tennessee because they did it the next day. we have to be prepared when industry comes looking. we are 18 months away from making major infrastructure decisions so we are ready for the ships. we have to have a covenant that will roll up their sleeves and put people in the same room. we have to solve the problem. when infrastructure is right, the whole state can work. we can gain that growth. it is not just the port of

charleston. >> mr. mcmaster. the charleston pork tinted boats at high time. george time -- the charlestown port can take boats at high tide. we all agree on the basic ingredients. the difference with me is i see that we can think big and globally and there is no end to what we can do. we have to work together to accomplish real change. whatanford year's show us happens when we do not do that. i am ready to continue working together. >> your question was about ports and maximizing interstate highways. we need to learn from georgia. they ran with it.

you haa a port board her recognized they needed a legislature that could strengthen them and then walk away and let them do their business. we had a governor that was not as engaged and we had a legislature will not let go of the ports. we need strong ports. we have to have distribution centerr. but we need to expand the interstate highways and rails so we are not contesting the interstate with trucks but by doing those things, which will maximize the amount of freight that comes in and out. >> we have got to have been intermodal port. i went to dubai and met with them. we have a plan region have to plan ahead and see -- we have to plan ahead and do those intermodal ports. why hone our skills, make us the

most efficient and effective. the third used fuel you can horn -- can burn, do something about these and number five. but farmers produce fuel that saves us from tearing up the environment in gives them an incentive to come to north carolina. >> the next question is for mr. mcmaster. >> our next question comes from the voice of the voter project. there would like to know what you would do to better educate the people of south carolina? >> good question. that is where we are really falling short. unfortunately, our education system from top to bottom is dysfunctional. there is very little accountability. i am for choice in education, good schools and new ideas. here is the problem we have. if we have a governor that wants

to do something about education, he has no direct authority other than the ability to veto. we had a superintendent that is elected separately that may or may not agree with the governor. he does not have power over the 70 members of the board of elections which are elected from around the state. most people do not know who is on the board. below that, there are 86 school districts. they do have some authority but they are not compelled to do much from above. below that you have the principals and teachers. that is where the rubber is meeting the road. they are filling out federal forms and trying to get the sort of things done. they cannot teach. the wonder is that we are doing as well as we are. what i would do, and i differ from my colleagues, i would focus on early chou of agitation. if we cannot get them up to that first grade and reading by the third grade and up to an

academic college or technical college, both of which we have plenty of, we will never get ahead. that is what i would do. >> this haley, 30 seconds. >> i was born and raised in a rural area. i now represent lexington county where every public school is like a private one. schools in lexington, there is a smart for. we have got to reform our education funding. we have to change the way to fund education. when we start to do that, including merit based pay for teachers, understanding we have to and sent -- incentivize this. if we have to think outside the box. we have to reform the way we fund education if we want to see any changes in the inequities. >> as a substitute teacher, i can tell you. the money should be in the

classroom. do not the full. we continue to hear about money. if you do not put discipline back in the classroom and parents engaged in their children's education, you'll never fix the system. we have some schools that are great but those are schools that are filled with engaged parents. other schools, they cannot make it work matter how much money. my right hand and graduated from one of the worst schools in the president. he came from a broken home and qualified for free lunch. his mother decided education was first and foremost. he got it down. my wife is a first-rate school teacher. she says congressman and first graders have a lot in common. no child should did the third grade that is not at or above the third grade reading -- reading level. that is a long-term goal that we can fix. we have to get the dollars to the classroom. we need discipline. we need for the ability for

teachers and principals to decide if that child needs to leave the classroom. we need school choice. my children were home school. there went to a christian school and probably that would from public school. one size education does not fit all. >> the next question is directed to nikki haley. >> where do you stand on the state gambling laws which outlaws all games? the specific question is -- >> i think there are a lot of things we can focus on. one is creating jobs. we have 44,000 jobs that need to be filled and they are going out of state to get them. i do not want my focus to be on creating gambling chops or anything else. i do not think we need to compromise south carolina is. it is not about what you spent

but how you spend. it is not about what the environment is but where it needs to go. when you are in business, you do it this plan. you did not just handing things for today. you look at 3, 5, 7 and look at where you want to go. that is what i will do as governor. there are other ways. we did not have to compromise our state in any way to bring good jobs to this day and to bring good quality businesses. >> no. >> mr. barrett, you ggt 30 seconds. " nobody thought video poker any harder than i did. -- fought video poker any harder than i did. i would not do anything to allow any type of gaming my answer is no. gambling is outlawed by our constitution. we should not attempt to bring

it back in any way. governor campbell said those are not the kinds of jobs we want to be known for. we are concentrating on these children in school yet making money on gambling which does not lead to much and causes problems. education is so important. i would have fought the superintendent of education. i would make a state board of education advisory. that is where the answer is. >> the next question is directed to andre bauer. >> this question also comes from the boys of the voter project. they want to know if south carolina is faced the same immigration issues that arizona is dealing with, as governor, how would you work with congress to deal with it? >> we have to address the real

problem. nobody wants to talk about it. just illegal immigration problems. we deal with the fact that there are jobs that americans no longer want to do. let's call a spade a spade. there are people at they get so much money from the government that they will not do certain jobs, picking peaches, working in a hotel. nobody waats to talk about that. whether you want to agree with that or not, that is the truth. until you get people that get up -- get off their duffs, you will have an immigration problem. nobody will enforce it. we should enforce the laws on the book. we have the second toughest laws and the entire u.s. we have to really go back and say why do we have this problem? the reason is we continue to give more away to able-bodied

people. new jersey said five years and you are off of welfare. if you have a child, you have to get the father's name and if not, you lose the benefits. we have to look at why we have an immiiration problem. government giveaways have become so good that people have chosen to take those rather than working. >> got us the governor of arizona. she is trying to take back her state. the federal government has failed to enforce immigration laws. and we need to make sure we hold our employers accountable with a system where they can verify illegals. we need to fully implement a 287 program. it is a program where we train our local and state law- enforcement officials on how to enforce immigration laws so we can be the masters of our own

destiny it is a problem. we have a problem with the obama administration and congress passing things like the individual health care mandate to threaten our sovereignty and liberty and doing nothing about immigration. we have a lot that punishes employers. that law will finish the loop on that and give us the best immigration laws and the country. i issued an opinion last week saying it is unconstitutional. i know how to enforce laws. i am the only one that has been in the business of enforcing laws. >> i think that every senate did what they had to because the government failed to react. i applaud every effort to bring that. i am a co-sponsor of the arizona-stop legislation. let's also look at the fact that the immigration laws that south carolina passed, when they

looked at it last year with the stimulus, there was not the first dollar put in that prosecution fund. it was known -- it was one more instance of government passing something and not going back to look at it. had those dollars been put in there, we could already see accountability and how the law was being handled. >> the next question will be addressed to ♪ gresham barrett. >> what bill or bills did you get past and congress to bring economic development to south carolina? >> part of the bills that i hoped pass was extending the bush tax cuts. you have a federal government that wants to be telling you what to be and how to be it, how much you will make a more than that, where you get your health care. i have been in washington the last 7.5 years.

sitting here tonight, the answer to this nation cause problems are not in washington d.c.. there is an amendment of the 10th amendment which is the state's rights. the governor of arizona knows that. it is time we had a governor to stand up and say we are not doing it anymore. we are taking our country back. i am working on a bill with jim demint. south carolina is a donor state when it comes to transportation dollars. for every dollar we send up, we only get back 93 cents. this says that federal government, you take care of the interstates because those are yours. we will take care of the rest. we keep our own dollars and solve our own problems. that is what is states during the states should be the hotbeds of experimentation and freedom. empowering people, not government. the government has a role. that is to set that table.

once we do that, we need to get out of the way. >> in this position for eight years, i have done a number of things. one is to protect our precious supply from north carolina taking too much. it is in the u.s. supreme court. we would do the same thing with georgia. i have gotten a lot of legislation passed. going after the wife beaters. we have securities legislation passed. environmental legislation. methamphetamines. those are all major pieces of legislation. i had to fight like the dickens for some but i got them done. i have more pieces of major legislation passed the my colleagues have combined and i am not in a legislative body. >> 30 seconds. " i served on the worker's comp conference where we worked as hard as we could to mixture of small business had stronger workmen's comp laws.

we saw some investors pulling their money out on the coast because the insurance got high. that was another way of keeping jobs. my fight right now is making sureethat every single legislator has a vote on the record. when you can see the spending habits of your legislators and hold them accountable, we can make sure we have a good government for south carolina. >> i have travelled to over 20 countries this year as a lieutenant governor. not once have you paid for a cup of coffee. it was paid for privately. i have continued to me with businesses that want to meet in south carolina. a fortune 500 company, i sat down with them a few weeks ago because they are interested in moving corporate headquarters to south carolina. nobody has even met with them. i met with a company that wants to put a solar farm. i put them into touch with

several different people. i have been doing a lot of things as the number 2 guy in the state. >> thank you. the next question is for mr. mcmaster. if you said you are committed to a new knowledge-based economy citing a research university. as far as reaching that goal, what role will colleges play in your plan? interval parts and they will know that they are involved and there is a lot of talent at this place. i see dr. carter sitting right there. we have all sorts of talented people. i differ a little because i do not want to close any of the schools ddwn. we have a 33 public supported institutions you have a q s c

branch right next to a -- you have a branch rednecks to wait committed to college. i want to fill the mouth. the answer is getting children through school is the only way to get into the knowledge-based economy. a hot every time you see great economic prosperity across the country, every time the see a great research universities involved, you see a network of educational institutions that are pushing people. the personal pathways to success is what we've follow. and we have to get those children on the first round of that letter -- rung of that ladder. if we do that with all the innovative businesses that we

have, if we form a network or the government is leading that charge, we can compete with the entire world. >> that was dr. fred carter, the president of francis marion. >> i think the answer for the schools is to make sure we hold all of higher education institutions accountable. if you take state funds,, how many dollars get inside the classroom. whether your programs are helping south carolina businesses. we do not need to fund schools based on the number of lobbyists at the statehouse. it has to be because they are efficient and effective for the students and the families that pay that the schools can be effective in terms of helping with south carolina businesses and make sure the money is right. it is all about accountability. -- frances

marion is providing a vehicle to summon the people in this community. they cannot take all the students that want to come here. that is what the role of some many of these universities are. educate young people and provide them new opportunities there would not have otherwise. i voted to keep all of colleges and universities in south carolina opened because we have that the man. there should not be a quarter with the governor is not sitting down with the head of these research institutions to talk about how we can work together and better serve south carolina and how we can co-op our two- year institutions. i call them community colleges. we have to work together and figure out how we can

collaborate. figuring out collectively how to move education for work. >> the next question is directed to nikki haley. >> you want the support of the party and sarah palin. what did you do right away as governor of the state to work within the existing power structure in columbia and washington to make sure south carolina did what it's -- gets what it needs. >> i have fought for people to know the power of their voice. i also fought for elected officials to remember who it is they work for. i will have an agenda every year. i will take that to the general assembly and say pick three major items. what ever items they pick, i will tell all of the public about it.

i want the public to know about legislation before it happens. i will work on the committee level and set level and house level so that it will have been a team effort by the time it gets to my desk. for all of this legislators that go against good government reform, i will go in their districts and hold their hand to the fire because the people deserve to know that. when we were dealing with on the record voting, the bill came up in one legislator came up and said we wanted to note that we are going to kill the bill. i said if you do that, i will say it is very clear the republican leadership does not accountable. he passes bill, i will say it is clear that republican leadership understands the importance of being accountable. the person that was going too kill it moved for its passage. when you give them the option to do the right thing, the

legislature will make the right decision 70% of the time. at the end of the day, we are going to get things done. our days of debating are over. it is time for action i would say she does not have of the tea party. a lot of them are supporting me. the most successful governor in the history. -- and the governor of the state was carol chambers from the -- . they have given money back, including part of my pay. if we got that done working with the legislature. >> in my lifetime, there has never been a better governor than carroll campbell. think about what he did. the change he instituted, you do

not have to lose your conservative principles to be a good leader. it is working together. we had legislators and economic developers and professors across the state to formulate a plan so when it goes forward, it is our plan, not my plan. that is how you have to govern. >> >> i am only write about one thing? >> i think governor campbell did a superior job. they did things the string -- the same way. there were strong leaders. they kept most of the debate behind the scenes. all of those kinds of things were behind the scenes. i think they recognize that an effective leader is one that has to get things done. you have to stick to your conservative principle. i am not blaming anybody but the sanford years have taught us that you have to work with

people in order to get things done. i have been getting things done for eight years. >> we have another question from the voice of the voter project. each candidate has one minute to answer. this comes from richard gregory. he wants to know how much funding will you give to the interstate 73 project to help the economies of northeastern south carolina at diversify and get better? thank you for that question. >> i would say this, we need to look at where we are getting funding from. we should let the private sector run rest areas. find new ways to create revenue without asking the taxpayers. we can come up with creative ways to have revenue. myrtle beach is subsidized so much of the state. we take so much money from them

and did not send much back. we have to send that back to one of the crown jewels. revenue.ngs in some much that money has to come back. i would look at all kinds of things. we hire a new architect whenever we build a new school. and why not build template drawings and use it again? you save $500,000 for every school building. costs would come down 30% on every building. that can be passed on to the i- 73 corridor. we know we will have a lack of funding next year. >> i-73. >> i said earlier, the number one project needs to be eye-73. it is more than an economic engine. it is a safety route. imagine if a hurricane hits during the middle of peak

season. we have to be sure we can keep citizens safe and secure. when we talk about securing funding, i am excited about the energy project. it is how we can bring jobs and growth to north carolina. there are 4 billion cubic feet of natural gas off of south carolina. the national petroleum institute says it could be to lend it $50 million of royalties. that is money we can use as we see fit. i imposed we use 70% for infrastructure and poll but charges. couple that with nuclear energy, we have a tremendous tax base for that of the structure. >> until we get our 73 done, the grand strand will never reach its full potential. it is almost impossible to get

in or out. that is primarily a federal responsibility. there is another exaaple of washington not doing what it should be doing. what i would do as your customer is working as hard as i could with their congressional delegation. you have to work with people to see that it is funded. we are sending the money up there and we are not getting it back. we need to be sure we get the money back. that will open up our economic engine. you can get to those places. greenhill has become an economic engine because of the enlightened leadership and the kind of team approach i am talking about. i would take the department of natural resources and give them parks and recreation. keep terrorism as a separate agency. tourism is to sell myrtle beach every day globally. >> 73 is important for a couple

levels. tourism is our number 2 industry. we need to understand we need to do whatever we can to reduce complications in getting to myrtle beach. you see the loss of companies coming in because it is hard for them to do that. what i will do is meet with the federal delegation every quarter so we understand exactly where we are and go back and understand it is not what you spend but what you spend. it is priorities and understanding that if we think tourism is important, we need to show what. we need to show what by the way that we spend an act. >> because of time constraints, we will cut the closing statements to one minute of peace. we will start with andre bauer. >> i am running for governor to take on the tough issues. most of them to not want to talk about the politically incorrect things going on in south carolina. somebody has to have this

discussion. we know schools are struggling. we throw money added. that is not fixing the problem. we have to do something to get this parents engage. whether you look at these social programs, we cannot afford them. we had the smallest amount of paychecks coming from private business and the large number of people receiving government goods and services. we have to wake up and have these discussions. i am the only ones that has been out there to bring it for eight years. i am the only one that gave up their detriment paycheck. over $400,000 for my agency. i am a businessman first and foremost. thank you for being here and i hope you give me my vote -- your vote. >> gresham barrett.

>> i believe in god. possible.th him all things are%- i believe if we are going to take this nation back, it is one state at a time. if i did not pick the that, i would not be here tonight. you want to see a state with your sons and daughters to get to read and take jobs or the next job is across the street. not across the nation. entrepreneur is are the heart and soul of this company. we have our best days ahead of us. we need a did that can pull south carolina to get there. i have been blessed to be a congressman for the past seven and half years and i would be honored to be your governor. tonight, i ask for your support in your vote. god bless. >> henry mcmaster. >> from upstate to the didn't

come out from the mountain to the sea, outh carolina is a wonderful sight to behold. we see it everyday. we are blessed with talented and innovative people and plentiful resources. i believe we can achieve any dream that we set our minds to. i have a plan to put south carolina back on the path to prosperity. of the candidates, and they are good candidates, i believe i am the one that has executive leadership experience, a record of accomplishment, where king with the legislature, sometimes fighting them and sometimes pulling them, but a record of accomplishment and the maturity, judgment, and credibility to get it done. as governor, i will lower taxes, recruit high-paying jobs and reunite our economic engines. i want to ask you to join me. i believe our new day is about

to begin and i want us all to work together to show the world what south carolina can do. thank you. >> thank you. nikki haley. >> thank you. this -- the elections matter on the state and federal level. we have seen a lot of republicans that will learn the talking points but did not know the actions. one thing we consistently noticed and my business is how hard it was to the fifth of his hits was for government to take it. we have to make government understand that these people pay this money and how we spend it matters. by and the only one on this panel that has opposed the stimulus package. it just ran up the credit card debt. we are going to be in its budget crisis. we will do that. i am in a format that understands that all things are possible. i am the daughter of immigrant

parents that remind us every day how blessed we are. i and the sister of a man who fought in desert storm and i remember what it was like when we did not know if he would come home. i am the mother of two children in public schools and i care about their education and i care about what type of overnment they have. i am it legislated that knows what good government is and i want people of the state to know what that feels like. >> thank you. thank you for being here and your service to our state and to our country. speaking of thank yous, we would like to show our gratitude to all the people of francis marion. we also want to thank our other partners. many of them are with us tonight. we also -- remember, coastal

carolina baltic states in just under 48 hours as the democratic gubernatorial candidates take place in our second day. -- second debate. that is scheduled for thursday night. it will be broadcast live on channel 13 and nationally on c- span. that will be 7:00 eastern time. we also want to thank the audience. it is now up to you and all the people watching to have your voice heard at the ballot box next voting day. vote, it is so important. the primaries are june 8. for more about -- thank you for watching and good night from frances marion university. [applause] thursday, three democrats a

face-off in south carolina to be the nominee for governor. robert ford and vincent sha heen participate in a debate hosted by news 13. live coverage on c-span, c-span radio and c-span.org. it begins at 7:00 eastern. today, president obama said bp could face criminal charges over the gulf of mexico oil spill. he also named an inquiry commission. his remarks are next. then we hear from eric holder who is in the gulf region. later come remarks from admiral thad allen, who heads up the federal goveenment's response to the oil spill. >> suspend, our public affairs content is available on television, radio, and on line. you can also connect with us on

took care, facebook, and youtube. sign up for a scheduler e-mails @ c-span.org. >> president obama introduced the co-chairman of an independent commission that will investigate the bp gulf of mexico oil spill. bob gramm is a former democratic senator from florida. william reilly and led the epa from 1989 to 1982 -- 1992. this is almost 10 minutes. >> good morning. >> good morning. i just met